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March 5th, 2022 19:00

Can the Dell Inspiron 16 Plus (130W) be charged via the Thunderbolt port (up to 100W)?

I haven't bought it yet, so I'm asking: Since the Inspiron 16 Plus (7610) comes with a 130W AC adaptor, and Thunderbolt 4 (which the Inspiron 16 Plus has) allows charging only up to 100W, does that mean that the laptop cannot be charged or run off the Thunderbolt USB-C port?

Actually, the Dell webpage for this laptop boasts, "“A does-it-all port: A Thunderbolt™ 4 allows you to charge your laptop, connect to multiple devices, and...”  --but that could be just a generic statement.

One YouTube reviewer says that charging via USB-C works, but I wonder how that is possible if the laptop is rated at 130W and Thunberbolt is only 100W? Is that because, as I've read elsewhere, the laptop doesn't actually RUN/ need to run at 130W all the time? So, a 100W charger (or powerbank?) with a 100W-capable USB-C cable can actually manage to replenish the battery and sort of run the laptop?

Does anyone know, or has anyone actually tried this out on the Inspiron 16 Plus (7610)?

Thanks.

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March 15th, 2022 15:00

60W refers to just the GPU, which is why a Thunderbolt charger will not power one of these with the discrete GPU.

It may charge the battery - but to run the system at full speed, you need the 130W adapter.

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March 6th, 2022 04:00

If the system has an Intel GPU, it may be possible to charge and run the system over Thunderbolt.  If it has an nVidia GPU, no - the system will not run on Thunderbolt; you need the original AC adapter.

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March 6th, 2022 12:00

Thanks for your reply. Hmm... Since asking the question, I subsequently saw a Notebookcheck.net review. The system reviewed had an nVidia GPU (the RTX3050), and the reviewer said, "Users can also charge with third-party USB-C adapters, but the charging rate will slow significantly when compared to the proprietary 130 W barrel charger that comes with the laptop," There was no mention of the GPU preventing charging by Thunderbolt (maybe the reviewer didn't actually try?).

What is the technical reason for the nVidia GPU preventing USB charging? I would be grateful to be educated on this.

Actually, regarding the reviewer's note on a slower charging speed, there are now GaN AC chargers that can be paired with the right cable to deliver 100W fast charging via USB-C, so the wattage would be almost up to the 130W of the original AC adapter. Anyway, I don't know if the GPU is still an issue for this.

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March 6th, 2022 12:00

Charging is independent of the GPU -- but you also mentioned running the system from a Thunderbolt connected AC adapter -- that will work only with the integrated GPU.  The nVidia GPU consumes too much power -- for that you will need the original power adapter.

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March 6th, 2022 22:00

Ok. I'm confused. The Inspiron 16 Plus ( https://www.dell.com/en-au/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-16-plus-laptop/spd/inspiron-16-7610-laptop/hni761004au?view=configurations#tech-specs-anchor ) comes with an NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3060, 6 GB GDDR6, 60 W  (I think maybe Dell has limited it to 60W, because that's what they specified on the web page). By "integrated CPU" did you mean something like the IrisXe or something like that? I supposed this nVidia is an indepedent GPU, but it says "60W", so  maybe the laptop as a whole (including the nVidia GPU) will charge with a USB-C (65W or 100W) adaptor? (I'm wondering if when travelling I can leave behind the AC brick, which is 130W). Charging will be slower, but at least it will still charge? After all, it won't draw 130W all the time, if not doing power-intensive computing?

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March 6th, 2022 23:00

Just to add: I spoke to someone from Dell (an extremely rude sales person who claimed to have superior technical knowledge, but i doubt it...technical support wouldn't take my call without a service tag number (which I don't have because I haven't bought it!!). Anyway this guy said that using a 65W charger on this laptop will work BUT it will affect the life of the battery (because it's designed to be charged at 130W), but a 100W charger should be fine.

I don't quite understand this. I thought 65W just means it will take longer to charge the battery, but why would it affect the life of the battery or spoil it in any way? Also 100W is still lower than 130W, so I don't know why that would be fine.

March 15th, 2022 15:00

I have a Dell Inspiron 16 7610 (personal) with a NVIDIA 3060 and a Dell Precision 5560 (work) that has a Dell 130W USB-C power supply. I have used that charger to charge my personal Inspiron laptop without any issue. I'm not sure if it is keeping up while gaming which kind of implies that that isn't a problem. I do not work for Dell or have any special credentials beyond general knowledge gained working in IT for 20+ years.

Good luck!

Walt L

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March 24th, 2022 23:00

Thanks. Your USB-C power supply is 130W, so that's why it'll work, I guess. If I have only a GaN charger that goes up to a max of 100W (not quite enough), Thorium (who replied above) says that it'll power the laptop battery, but not actually run the separate GPU. That confuses me, because I thought that as long as the battery has power, the GPU can draw power from that battery, so regardless of whether the charger is charging at 60W or 100W or 130W, if the battery has stored power, the nVidia GPU should be able to draw power from the battery (until it runs out).

Of course, if the GPU is drawing power faster than the battery can be charged, the battery will eventually run out, but up until that point, isn't the GPU still functioning the same way as on mains electricity?

Anyway, thanks for the answers. My takeaway: if I'm not playing GPU-intensive games or draining too much power, even a 60W USB-C charger can replenish the laptop battery (though more slowly), but maybe there will be some long-term damage to the battery (which is what that Dell guy said). Or maybe that Dell guy (who wasn't actually a technician) was talking nonsense. I don't mind a lower-wattage charger taking longer (no problem!)--I'm just worried if it will actually cause any damage to the battery over the short or long term.

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